In this deeply personal and heartfelt season finale, Lisa and Gretchen reflect on the powerful conversations, courageous stories, and vital resources shared across 15 transformative episodes. They celebrate the community built, the lessons learned, and the shared mission to end the stigma around mental health and suicide.
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Lisa and Gretchen close out Season One by revisiting their incredible journey together—from how they met and the formation of their unique podcast, to the raw and vulnerable stories they've shared. They celebrate the lives touched, the stigma broken, and the love and support of their growing community. This is more than a podcast—it’s a movement, and this finale captures every beat of its heart.
🎧 Lessons Learned- Talking about suicide saves lives—and it’s okay to use humor and humanity to heal.
- Everyone processes mental health differently; empathy, not judgment, opens the door to support.
- Sharing personal stories unlocks others' courage to share their own.
- There's no one-size-fits-all approach to therapy; explore what works for you.
- Building safe spaces fosters healing and reduces isolation.
0:00 – Opening Message & Content Warning
1:00 – A Season of Growth & Gratitude
3:30 – How Lisa & Gretchen Met: The Podmatch Connection
6:00 – The Power of Shared Stories
8:45 – Why These Conversations Matter
12:00 – Highlights from Our Guest Episodes
17:00 – Mental Health Awareness Month Reflections
20:00 – Pride Month & LGBTQ+ Mental Health
22:30 – Recognizing Warning Signs of Suicide
25:00 – A Love Letter to the Community
27:00 – Final Reflections & Hope for Season Two
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solutions. This podcast mentions suicide, mental illness,
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grief and loss and may be triggering for some listeners. So please
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take care of your mental well being by pausing or skipping any sections
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that feel uncomfortable to you. And if you or someone you know is struggling, please
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call 988 for support. I can't believe
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we're here. At this point, I am dumbfounded
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that we have recorded a full season of
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our podcast together. I know it's kind of crazy,
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and for two people that have known each other not
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even a year and like, we are already like, best buddies
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and talking about a really hard subject, but making
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waves, too. Yeah, we're definitely, I think, making waves. I mean, we certainly are
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getting enough feedback from all over the world to support that,
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which feels official. Amazing. And we know people are tuning in because
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we get to see behind the curtain and we, we see how many of you
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are out there listening to us on the regular and commenting and
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sharing episodes. And it just is the most beautiful feeling in the
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world to know that people are paying attention to this conversation. Because that's the whole
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point. That's been our whole point, for sure. And the emails that we've
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gotten and the reviews and comments on our
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posts, it warms my heart that people want
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to learn more, want to help more, and want to make
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talking about suicide not such a horrible
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conversation. I mean, and the irony is,
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it's something that every single one of us somehow, some way
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will be touched by eventually. If you haven't been, you know, this is kind of
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how we started our conversation. Like, if you haven't been touched by this yet,
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wait a minute. Because you will be. And then when you are, at
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least you'll understand it. At least you'll know what to
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do, how to help. If it's yourself that's struggling, if it's someone
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you care about that's struggling, at least if you've been paying attention to what we've
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been talking about this first season, you'll have some
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tools in the toolbox. And, and you. And you can help.
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You can help yourself and you can help other people. So this, this is kind
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of fun. Like, I'm. I'm excited for this episode because in front
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of me, and I know in front of you, because I just emailed it to
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you, is our calendar from season one.
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And I have all of these episodes that we've already recorded
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and, and by now have been released. And I just think
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of how much incredible conversation has taken place in the last
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15 weeks from never having recorded a single thing ever
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together, except for my appearance on your
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other podcast, which I will plug right now. It's called Shit that
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Goes on in Our Heads. You and Don't Dirty Skittles taking over the world one
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mental health conversation at a time. Because of that and because of our friends
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at Pod Match that helped to make that connection possible,
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we're sitting here right now at the very end of our own first season of
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our own spinoff podcast, and it just gives me the
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most joy. Like, I want to hug you so badly right now, but I can't
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because I break my computer screen. Because you're, you're on a screen right now.
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It's so sad. Just come on through. I know, I know you want to. Just
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look at it. I know. I, I, I would love to. I would love. But
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we're going to see each other in person soon enough. So let's do the fun
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thing, which is to recap our whole
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first season of the Survivors. So. Oh, look at you with the,
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with the emojis again with the hearts. I love that. That makes me so happy.
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So we start. Oh, now it's confetti. This is incredible. It's like a ticker tape
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parade. So episode one, we talked very in depth about our
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origin story. How you and I came to be here,
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how we met, how we found each other in the world,
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and how we realized that we had so much in
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common with each other. How you and I
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met was absolutely crazy. But I'm a
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huge believer in fate, and we were supposed to meet and
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how that pre interview for shit that goes on in our heads
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lasted almost two hours. Typically those are like maybe half an
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hour. But we just kept talking and we just had
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this great synergy between the two of us, and we
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built another beautiful podcast based on our
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lived experiences. Yeah. And I do believe as much now, more
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so now, even now that we've finished our whole first season. I believe it even
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more now that there is not a community out there quite
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like ours. There is not a platform out there quite like
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ours that not only focuses on suicide
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and having those conversations and talking about the really nuanced
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kind of grief that's attached to that kind of loss. But it's
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also a place where two different kinds of survivors like, who's out there?
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Two different kinds of survivors like this, with our kind of lived experience of
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being an attempt survivor on your side and my side being a multiple
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suicide loss survivor. And I'm also on crisis lifelines and we're both advocates.
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It's like we have this complete circle of
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experience. Not experience we either of us wish that we had, but we
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have it. And what I love more than anything about our
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relationship is that you and I match each other's energy so well,
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and we always have, since the minute we started talking to each other last
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year. And we both have the singular goal
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of normalizing these conversations so that people can just
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talk about the shit that's weighing them down and that they're dealing with
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and not feel stigmatized anymore. And I've never met anybody
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that matched my energy like that before. Yeah, you are a
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little fireball. But, you know, the other thing that we need to remember, too, is,
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like, a lot of the podcasts that are out there are very clinical. Ours are
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not clinical by any means. And, yes, we may laugh about
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some stuff that's not really that funny, but levativity is part
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of healing and acknowledging that it's okay to laugh.
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You know, hindsight is 20 20. I will tell you, in my own little journ
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journey, I can go back and laugh at some of the shit that happened right
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before I made that phone call. But, you know, I got to share that in
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my story, and you got to share your story, and it was so beautiful
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and so eloquent when you shared your story. I'm not a big crier
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lately, but, like, every time you and I get together, I cry more and more.
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So it's something about you. You're just a softie. It's not me. You're just.
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You're just a highly sensitive and emotional human that you have
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a huge. A huge heart. So, you know, it doesn't surprise me that we're both
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like that. And, you know, I love the fact that, you know, first.
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Our first episode was obviously our origin story, which is how we got together.
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And we already just shared a little bit about that. We met because of this
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app that is like a dating app for podcasters and guests that got
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us together called Pod Match. And I got invited to speak on your
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podcast, and the rest is. Is kind of history at this point. We. We
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just had an instant connection, and now we're sitting behind the
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mic together every week doing something we love. And then we
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had my story. Episode two was my story about
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losing my father, my cousin, and one of my closest childhood friends to suicide
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and learning that my father had taken his life 35 years
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after he died. That was a twist that nobody
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saw coming. And then we hopped over to your story, and episode
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three was, you Just being so unbelievably vulnerable
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and honest about how hard things were for you, and
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they were. Since I started telling my story, I have had a few friends
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drop off, because for them, for somebody to be that
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vulnerable or talk about the things that I talk about,
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suicide, mental health, like, it scares people, and they
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dropped out of the. Out of my life. But there's a reason
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and a season for friends. But I know in
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my heart I'm doing the right thing, and that's all the validation I need.
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Absolutely. And you know what? No fault to them either, because what you're
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talking about and what we're talking about, like, it's hard. It's hard and it's
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scary. And even though you don't maybe want it to be, it
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can be off putting for a lot of people who don't know how to handle
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it. So you did what you needed to do in talking about
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it and being open and honest about it, and that's what saved your life. And
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those people who may have dropped out of your life were doing what they
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needed to do to protect themselves. So it's like, there's no fault, no harm, no
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foul all the way around. And the point is that you're. You're
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here and you're thriving, and you are the poster
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Child for the 988 Crisis and Suicide
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lifeline, which I love, because I think. I think we should start putting your face
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on all the billboards around the country. Be like G. Call
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988. Be like G. Oh, that was your first snort of the season.
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That's so cute.
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See, we started the season laughing, and we're ending the season. I
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can't with you, and. No, nobody needs to see
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my short little body. Short little head on a billboard.
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No, look, I think that you. I think that you would
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create a groundswell of people wanting to. To
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call because you're so endearing and adorable and sweet. I think. I
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think you're. I think you would. You'd fire people up
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to want to help themselves. You know,
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we moved from sharing our stories just to kind of lay the foundation for this
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whole. This whole podcast. We moved right
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into why these conversations matter, which I think was such a
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perfect place to start, because that's what we're doing. We're having these
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conversations, and they matter. And we spent
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an entire episode talking about why that is.
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And it's simple, right? We spent a half an hour talking about it, but at
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the end of the day, it's really simple. When you talk about these
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things, you Create safe spaces to have these
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hard conversations. And you give people permission to be
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vulnerable and honest and share what's going on on the
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inside so that people can be better equipped to help
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themselves and to help each other. And also, as we share our
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journeys and our stories, every time we talk about it, we unlock somebody
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else's pr. Sharing our journeys, sharing
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our resources, sharing what's out there gives people some,
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some tools, some coping tools. Because like, like
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you and I both had, suicide's not like the funnest
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topic to talk about, but it happens every day.
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And that's why it's important that we talk
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about it. It's important that we talk
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about it not just with our friends and our family, but the world and on
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LinkedIn and with businesses and with
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schools and kids. It's a fact of life. It does
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happen. And there's so many resources out there that people can
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use to maybe save their life. Well, like we can't save them
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all. We can at least try to give them the
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resources that they need for that very moment. Yeah,
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exactly. Exactly. One of the
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beautiful conversations that we had that we were fortunate was a two part
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conversation was our time that we got to spend
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with Janine Ellenberg from our sponsor Calmry.
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She's the chief medical officer of Calmri and
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the founder of Behaviorance. What a,
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what a rich and powerful conversation over that
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two part that was episode six and seven. What a powerful
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conversation with someone who has got so much clinical experience,
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so much lived experience, so much professional experience,
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not only as a therapist, but,
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you know, kind of behind the curtain on that, that
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real clinical side. And we just had such
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deep conversations about how to tell when people are
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struggling and the importance of taking care of the
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people around you and the importance of prioritizing mental
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health and the importance of equalizing mental illness and
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recognizing it as an illness. Like, I mean, if you haven't already listened to
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those two episodes, episode six and seven, go listen to them. Because
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Janine offers such a rich perspective on
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everything that we're talking about here. And she's just so incredibly eloquent
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and lovely and we just wanted to hug her the entire time. That's so true.
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And it's not just like her lived experiences, but she's a mom
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too. And the importance of telehealth and the
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importance of empathy and kindness and let's try and make the
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world a better place. There's, there's a lot going on in the world right now
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and empathy and kindness go a really long way. And just
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reminding people of how important that is. Yeah, yeah, we've done
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that. Well, that's been a constant theme. I mean, we've done that in, you know,
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regardless of whatever it is that we've been talking about on any given week, we
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always circle back to that because that's at the heart part of what we,
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we need people to realize. It's how we engage with each other
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and support each other that will change this whole narrative that
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you and I are working so hard with so many other people to change. So
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it's, it's just been, it's just been such
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a, a full season. Just. It's gone by too fast, I think
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for sure. I mean, episode eight, we debunked the
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whole stigma around suicide, which is what we continue to
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do. I mean, we definitely had an episode dedicated to it, but we,
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we, we do that in every single conversation that we
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have because, look, suicide has been
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this scary monster in everybody's
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imagination and hearts forever. It's something that nobody wants to
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pay attention to and nobody wants to be affected by.
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Hopefully we've done some positive work in breaking
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apart the stigma so that people don't have to feel like it's taboo
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anymore. And you know, we've provided really good resources for people,
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right, that they probably had never heard of before and can
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use today. It's stuff they can print up, they can put in their phone and
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you know, talking about suicide shouldn't be any different than talking
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about mental health or talking about what your plans are for the
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weekend. We all go through things and our brains are all
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wired differently. And giving somebody crap
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because they talked about committing suicide is probably the
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shittiest thing you could ever do.
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There's a lot that goes into that thought process. Think twice
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before you speak and use the resources that we put out there
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and put yourself in their shoes and kind of figure
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out like, kind of what, what they were going through. Yeah, yeah, it's.
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It's. It's important to. To just put judgment aside. It's important
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to just validate everybody's experience for that person's experience.
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Like, you know how when you're in a conversation with someone and you say something
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and it really hits the person the wrong way and you're like, oh, whoa, whoa,
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whoa, whoa, I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. Well, okay, maybe you didn't
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mean that, but it still had the impact it had on that
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person because that's how they internalized it. Well, mental illness is the
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same way. Depression. Depression is the same way. What might depress you might not
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depress me, and vice versa. It's. All of this stuff is so
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subjective. So we need to be gentle with people and we need to
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give ourselves permission to feel the way that we feel without judging
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ourselves and bitching at ourselves. And like you said,
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same thing. Don't do it with other people. Just have some respect
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that whatever the person is going through is something
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big for them. And we just never know what's going on behind somebody
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else's curtain. But, you know, like you said, we spent an awful lot of time
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this season giving out an awful lot of what I hope, what you hope
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will be resources that people will use and we'll start to
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access and share. We spent four consecutive weeks,
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episode 9, 10, 11, and 12. We talked about
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so many different things relating to Mental Health Awareness Month. That was,
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you know, how fortunate for us that our first season fell right in the middle
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of that. Those were such great conversations too.
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We talked about the importance of self care. We talked about
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the crisis lines. We talked about the importance of therapy.
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All really good things. But if you're not doing those
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things, then you could fall into some of those
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behaviors that you. You would talk negatively to yourself
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about. Right. So, like, my big thing every day
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is check under the hood, make sure that I'm good, make sure I'm
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sticking with my therapy, make sure that I'm, you know,
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checking in with my friends, checking with Myself stopping
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the negative self talk because that is just not a good place to
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go and sharing the virtues of therapy. Right. Like,
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some people see it as a negative thing, but for me, there's so many
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different types of therapy you can have, and I incorporate them
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all. I do art therapy, I do eft, I do
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energy therapy, I do nature therapy only when it's not
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snowing. And I. It's helped my mental health. And
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like you said, how crazy it was that we got to, you know, do our
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first mental health awareness month. Yeah, yeah. And then. And then
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that slid us right into Pride Month, which, again,
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for. For both of us who are members of the
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LGBTQ community. What a joy to be
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able to talk about that on this platform because
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we've already talked about this so many different times. We are in a
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very precarious time right now in the world.
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It's a challenging time to be a human on this
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planet. Certainly challenging to be
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in this country at the moment. Even more challenging to be part of a
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marginalized community within this, this country. And
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when you're talking about Pride Month, you want to talk about the
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celebrations and the excitement and
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the showering of love, but you have to also acknowledge
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that there's another side of it that's really been amplified
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this year during pride, which is the struggle
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that has intensified for the queer community
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and how the queer community's mental health
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is being so negatively impacted by the state of the
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world right now, more so even than a lot of other populations,
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unfortunately. So we got to talk about that, and we got to
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share a lot of our own lived experience, and we got to share a lot
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of our own resources. You know, I. I spend a lot of my time on
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the Trevor Project Crisis lifelines. I got to talk a lot about that and. And
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the benefits and virtues of that. You got to talk about your own coming out
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story. And we both did. And it's just so much pride. Goodness that was so
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good. Makes me happy that we can talk about
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this openly and once again give people really good
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resources like PFLAG and free mom hugs. Like, I
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just want to give all sorts of free mom hugs to everybody, but we
00:20:20
get to have these really serious conversations.
00:20:24
But it warms my heart that we get to do this and hopefully our
00:20:27
messages reach the people that need to hear them and that people
00:20:31
are listening and taking this seriously and, you know, making those
00:20:34
checklists and things that they need on a day to day basis. I really
00:20:38
hope so. You and I have been very intentional about
00:20:42
the kinds of things that We've shared the kinds of resources, the kinds
00:20:46
of topics that we've brought up on this platform. And
00:20:50
the whole purpose is to just elevate the whole conversation and
00:20:54
make it acceptable and put resources on
00:20:58
top of everybody's minds so that if you're struggling or if
00:21:01
someone you know is struggling, you know what to do or you have an idea
00:21:05
of what to do, you've got something in your back pocket that you can pull
00:21:09
out that can help you. Once we. We slid out of Pride
00:21:12
month, we. We started talking about warning signs, one of our last
00:21:16
episodes. In fact, last week, our. Our last episode before this
00:21:20
one, kind of. This whole season kind of culminated, I feel like, with
00:21:24
that conversation about warning signs that someone
00:21:28
you know is struggling and what to do. I mean, this is the survivors
00:21:31
po. This community that you and I are building is a community of people who
00:21:35
have in some way shape or form been touched by
00:21:39
suicide or mental illness, grief, loss, all
00:21:42
attached to that one issue of
00:21:46
suicide. And one of the biggest things in
00:21:49
preventing any of that from happening is understanding what the
00:21:53
signs are. And you and I talked about that. How do you tell when
00:21:56
something's off with someone? How do you reach the extroverted people
00:22:00
who keep all that hidden? How do you confront someone
00:22:04
when you know they're not okay or you suspect they're not okay? Like, what do
00:22:07
you say? What do you do? We did that last week, and I feel
00:22:11
so good about what we said and how we said it and the
00:22:15
resources that we offered. Because if. If one person from
00:22:18
this entire season of you and I sitting here and having these conversations, if
00:22:22
one single person can be helped
00:22:26
or the direction they were headed in can change for
00:22:30
the better because of our conversation. Well, didn't that make every minute just
00:22:33
worth it? It sure does. I'm. I'm
00:22:37
super grateful for you. I'm super grateful for your mind and
00:22:41
your time and your insight and being able to
00:22:45
do this and really make an impact out there for our
00:22:48
listeners. There's just so much more that we can do, like
00:22:52
repurposing our content to maybe create an ebook on some
00:22:55
resources and things like that so that people have something tangible to hold
00:22:59
up. Holding their hand. Life is short. And
00:23:04
knowing that you are not alone in this world and that there are
00:23:08
people and places that can help you move
00:23:11
from like that one minute to the next. That's everything.
00:23:15
And love the community that we have built. And I love the fact
00:23:19
that we have this amazing website that people can come out to and,
00:23:22
you know, you can leave us A voicemail. Send us an email. We would love
00:23:26
to hear from our listeners of,
00:23:30
like, what more would you like to hear from us? From our
00:23:33
perspectives? And it's. Our website is the
00:23:37
survivors.net and I can't thank my
00:23:40
co host enough for her amazing,
00:23:44
amazing mind. Well, I mean, now you're. I spent the last two
00:23:47
episodes before this making you cry. Now you're making me get all
00:23:51
emotional. We've talked a lot this season about how you and I
00:23:54
clicked so fast and how we started, you
00:23:58
know, saying I love you right after the first or second conversation that we
00:24:02
had, which was so unusual and felt so normal. And
00:24:06
we talk, what, 65 times a day, probably. We talk or we
00:24:09
text. Feels like that. Yes. Yeah. I feel like I talk to you on the
00:24:13
telephone more than I talk to even my own mother. And that says a lot.
00:24:16
And it's like you have truly become family to
00:24:20
me. I mean, I said it earlier, you match each other's energy
00:24:24
in so many ways. And I'm so grateful for your
00:24:28
willingness to have these conversations and your energy around
00:24:31
it and just. You have one of the biggest, most
00:24:35
beautiful hearts that I have ever, ever come
00:24:39
across in a human. And my life is so much
00:24:42
richer because you're a part of it now. See,
00:24:46
I see you. I see it. There it is. I made you cry. It's okay.
00:24:50
You're okay. You're okay. But suffice it all to say that
00:24:54
this has been a dream come true for me, and it's. It's been a gift.
00:24:57
Now I'm fully crying. If you're watching this YouTube video now, I'm, like, full
00:25:01
on crying. You are a gift. And so is this. This podcast the
00:25:05
same. And thank you to our listeners who stuck with us for
00:25:09
15 episodes. I can't wait for season two. We have so
00:25:13
many other things that we're going to talk about, and we're going to really dig
00:25:16
deep. And if there's a subject you want us to touch on
00:25:20
from both of our perspectives, please go to the website, leave us
00:25:24
a voicemail or email. We want to hear from you.
00:25:27
And just please, everybody remember, you are enough. You are
00:25:31
wanted, you are loved. And the world's a better place because you're here.
00:25:35
Yeah, I second all of that. And I. I'll. I'll
00:25:39
leave you with this one last message. We've worked really,
00:25:43
really hard, you and I, this, this season, to build
00:25:46
something special, to build a community where people who are
00:25:50
dealing with suicide. Look, There are over 92 million
00:25:54
people in this world every year who are somehow
00:25:57
touched by suicide. And we are trying to create a community
00:26:01
where those people can come together and get the support, support
00:26:05
and the resources and the guidance and the sense of
00:26:08
community that you need in whatever way you need
00:26:12
it. So this whole experience this season has been a gift. I
00:26:16
cannot wait to come back for season two and do it all over
00:26:20
again and have even more impactful conversations than the
00:26:24
ones we've already had. Thanks for being here. Everybody listening.
00:26:28
Supporting G. I just love you. I love you so much. I love you
00:26:31
more. And I have one little thing for you. Let me go get it. Here
00:26:35
we go. I got some heart. I heart you. You
00:26:39
heart me. So if you're. If you're just listening to this in the last couple
00:26:41
of episodes, she has found her emojis button on our
00:26:45
riverside recording studio and now is is doing confetti
00:26:49
and hearts for everything. So she just gave me lots of hearts. So
00:26:52
we will end today and we will end this season with
00:26:56
all the hearts and all the love and we will come back re
00:26:59
energized for season two. We'll see you soon. See you soon.
00:27:03
Thanks for joining us on the survivors. Remember, no matter how tough things
00:27:07
feel, you are enough and the world needs you just the way you are.
00:27:11
You're not alone in this journey. There's a community here and every step forward
00:27:15
counts. We're so grateful you took the time to listen and we hope you'll
00:27:19
take one day at a time. Just know there's always more light ahead.
00:27:24
Thanks for being here. Friends, just remember, help is out there in
00:27:27
so many different places. So if you or someone you know is struggling,
00:27:31
please call 988 and a trained crisis counselor like me will be
00:27:35
there to help. You can also find an inclusive and comprehensive directory of
00:27:39
mental health resources, tools and content@thehelphub
00:27:42
co. Just remember that help is always just a call or a
00:27:46
click away. We'll catch you next week. In the meantime, keep surviving.