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💬 Episode Summary
In this raw and profoundly human episode, co-host Gretchen shares her emotional journey through depression, grief, and survival after a life-altering series of events in 2022. From early retirement and her spouse’s illness to a terrifying car accident, being catfished, and enduring multiple personal losses, Gretchen found herself on the brink—until a freezing Christmas Day pushed her to reach out to the 988 Lifeline.
What followed was a transformational healing journey powered by therapy, boundary-setting, and the bold sharing of her truth. Now a thriving business owner and host of two mental health podcasts, Gretchen’s story is a testament to resilience, community, and reclaiming your voice.
🔑 Key Takeaways
Extroverts Can Be in Crisis, Too: People who always seem “okay” may hide intense struggles. Don’t overlook them—ask more profound questions.
Healing Isn’t Linear: Growth comes in waves. Gretchen’s journey shows that recovery takes time, tools, and constant learning.
Boundaries Are Life-Saving: Saying “no” and protecting your emotional space is essential—especially for empaths.
✅ Actionable Items
Save & Share 988: Add the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline to your phone and share it with others: https://988lifeline.org
Check on Your “Strong” Friends: Go beyond “How are you?” Ask intentional, caring questions and create space for honest answers.
Protect Your Peace: Audit your emotional energy regularly. Gretchen uses a mental “black box” to keep out unnecessary drama.
⏱️ Episode Chapters
00:00 - Intro & Content Warning
00:24 - Gretchen’s Mental Health Spiral
07:03 - Rock Bottom on Christmas Day
08:33 - Finding Support & Starting Therapy
10:50 - Sharing Her Story Publicly
13:20 - Creating a New Purpose
24:55 - The Power of Community & Visibility
26:40 - Final Thoughts & Resources
📚 Resources Mentioned in This Episode
- 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – https://988lifeline.org
- The Trevor Project (LGBTQIA+ Youth Crisis Line) – https://www.thetrevorproject.org
- Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads Podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net
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- The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net
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Hey, off. So this week is my story and it's kind of wild, but in a good way because
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I'm alive today because of my story.
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So my whole mental health journey started the last quarter of 2022.
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And so much shit happened.
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And my little 411 body, I just didn't know what the fuck to do.
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This all the things were happening.
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So in September of 2022, I got the opportunity to take an earlier retirement from my job.
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I know when you looked at me, I looked all of 12, you know what?
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I did it.
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I'm very fortunate that I looked 12.
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And unless I go and buy beer and then they want to see my driver's license.
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Whatever.
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But I had decided to take an earlier retirement and then share roles October.
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And I'm not told where my wife got shingles.
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And if you ever met anybody that has had shingles, you know, if there's nothing you can do
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for them.
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And I've never seen her in that much pain.
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And I'm a true empath.
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So when she was hurting, I was hurting and trying to deal with the fact that I'm taking
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an earlier retirement soon work, which in itself sounds like a really great idea.
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But at the time, I was 59 and a half.
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And we all know that there's a little age as well in the workforce.
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And so I was a little concerned about getting a job because I let my blusiny toys.
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It do like your proof.
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I do love my blusiny toys.
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So we progressed through my wife had shingles.
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We had decided to take a little like a day road trip to Letchworth Falls, which is in
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upstate New York.
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And we had rented a car and we were just driving along and out of sucks and nowhere to
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the deer, right?
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But like literally like I had a meet see the car driver behind us to see it and takes out
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the whole passenger side of the rental car.
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Do you know I don't even know this story?
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You have never told me this story.
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So we're standing on the side of the road in this like, um, sucks, nowhere, right?
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Like if you've, if you've ever been to upstate New York, like there's a lot of these little
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towns that are like this big, like super tiny, right?
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Standing on the side of the road, I'm shaking my to leave.
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It's late October and you know, kind of cold and the driver behind us said she had
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to leave and see the deer.
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And so we were standing there and my saison humanity came back that day because there were a couple
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of drivers like old red necks that were driving down the wrecked.
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Are you ladies okay?
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And we're like fine.
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And so that whole thing put me in such a state.
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And here I am still worried about my wife right?
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She's like in so much pain.
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We had a friend in the back of the car and he didn't know what to do.
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So like we went along with the rental car back to Rochester and like things are compiling
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right?
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So I already like started to leave my job.
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My wife has signals now I hit a sucking gear.
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We get to the rental car.
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Why something?
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Always something right?
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So we get to the rental car place and I'm already freaked out right?
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Like we're lumping along going like 20 miles an hour on the highway and people are like
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honking at me and I'm like, fuck I can't go any faster.
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I go right side of my car is gone.
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Get to Rochester, go to go get a new rental car and the guy was such a dead right?
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Like I'm already like a state.
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He's like well do you have a police report?
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What the fuck now I don't have a police report but dear's dead.
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Kay like I didn't get a report.
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There's a report okay?
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You like it's here.
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Dear dead.
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He was like so adamant about this.
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Like in the police report.
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You know I'm still like really from all this life's in a lot of pain.
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You know the guy that was in the back seat.
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He was like all freaked out and I'm like trying to like maintain semblance of like
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tame okay and okay and I like I self like my chest height.
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So we get home after getting a new rental car and then during all of this I got chaffished.
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Thankfully.
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Were you dating?
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Were you cheating on your wife?
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I was cheating on my wife.
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I was like an emotional attachment right?
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Because as my wife was like dealing with the shingle stuff I was trying to figure out my wife.
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Thankfully I got to the point where I didn't spend any money right?
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Like I.
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But you knew that scammed.
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I totally got scared.
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You didn't get cat fished.
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No I got cat fished.
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Did you?
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Yeah.
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And a whole bunch of shit.
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Yeah.
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It was crazy.
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So you know still have all this like depression and like negative self talk and shit going on
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in the head.
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And then we had a really good friend of ours who passed away unexpectedly unexpectedly.
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And so you know still more shit still trying to figure out what my next.
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Well my next place that I'd be for work and things like that.
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And you know being 59 and a half you know I was taught not to talk about what was going
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on inside my head.
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Number one I didn't understand what it was.
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Number two I didn't really know how to talk about it because I didn't understand what
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I was.
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So then I you know our friend passed away and then right close to Thanksgiving my father
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don't want passed away.
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Now throw in a little bit of seasonal depression and a little holiday depression.
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And it's a perfect storm.
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And it was a perfect storm.
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And so if you go back and go to shit that goes on our heads go list of the season one episode
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three.
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Maybe not listen with small children because I showed the word fuck like 47 times.
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Or the first time that she says it in this podcast.
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Just saying.
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And by that time I should have known that something was really wrong.
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I ended up getting really drunk.
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I lost my cell phone in New York City.
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And then here comes Christopher stay and I Christopher stay in I've seen New York.
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He was minus 22 outside.
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My display.
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And I just wanted to know for a drive.
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I got my car.
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My car doesn't start.
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And now I'm just completely defeated.
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Like I was mad.
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I was sad.
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I was angry.
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And I just didn't know what to do.
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So I came back in the house and I didn't even tell my wife.
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I just went upstairs to my bedroom and I was like crying and so.
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And all these pent up emotions in my head.
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And I had remembered that I had read an article like in November of that year about the
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98 crisis.
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Mine.
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And I just needed to talk to somebody again.
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I wanted to talk to my wife.
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But I didn't know what to tell.
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I didn't have the words.
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I had my flinting.
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So I ended up contacting the 98 crisis fine because I was ready to end my wife right then.
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Thank God for 988.
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And so woman on the other end of the line was the most repassionate woman I've ever talked
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to.
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And she gave me some tips and she gave me some information that contacted Sarah Prost and.
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You know, told me that it was going to be okay and that you know, she would hang on to
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hang on the phone with me as long as I needed to just kind of get some footing.
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I get off the phone with her and before I get out search to my wife, I contacted the
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therapist and made an appointment for the very next day.
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So now I like getting the courage and I went down and I talked to my wife.
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Now at this time, this point, nobody knew how depressed I was.
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I went to complete, I'm 100% extra rude.
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And I would show up work every day with smiling face.
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I would talk to friends with a smiling face.
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I, you know, so on the outside, I looked perfectly fine.
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And the inside, all I wanted to do was die.
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I was totally in such a bad.
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And so what happened after I talked to my wife, I mean, she was mad that I couldn't tell
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her what was going on.
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But I didn't know how to tell her what was going on.
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It's hard.
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Like when you don't know yourself, what you're feeling and you don't, maybe you've never
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had a panic attack and you don't even know what, what the signs and symptoms are when
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you're dysregulated like that.
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Sometimes you just have not got the words for it.
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Yeah.
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And like there were no podcasts.
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You were mixing them and I could listen to like I tried to drown out the voice just from
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my head with music and now I know why I was born through because I'm writing my book.
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I kind of do towing out like what happened and what I would have done differently.
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If he's never written anything like it's super cathart and you learn a ton of lessons
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met yourself.
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One of the things that you know, people could have picked up on is like I was foodfully
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checked the fuck out.
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But I didn't want to join the decorations.
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I didn't hang out with anybody.
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But sit in my recliner and just let them badge out.
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I was like so tapped out and one of the things that happened with my job is that once I decided
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that I was taking my earlier tire length, it took all my responsibilities away from it.
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So now I've felt even more worthless.
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Like there was nothing, nothing left for me to give.
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And that accent like I would just push to side.
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In mid-December I had gotten a new job.
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I wasn't going to start until July of 2023 because I want to meet in each way so my retirement.
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So I like that was like another small glimmer of hope.
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But because I was so depressed, I couldn't even, I couldn't sadden what was going on.
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So the day after my suicide attempt, I guess I think I'm here today.
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That woman was a thing amazing.
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I decided to share my journey on social media because I have a ton of friends.
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I'm an extra word.
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I have a party or a bed like so.
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Hang out with me.
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So you're very adorable and you're very fun to talk to.
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So it's for those who don't know G.E.
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She's all four eleven.
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Powerhouse.
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You're like a little garden gnome.
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I am the garden gnome.
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So the next day I share my journey on social media and people were terrified.
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They didn't know what to do, what to say because they didn't realize how depressed I was.
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My one point I want to make is if you have an extra word or friend, take the time to really
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check on them.
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Like ask crowding questions.
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Ask the question that knows that they have to answer.
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Because that's one thing that people didn't ask.
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They would ask me what to do.
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How should I do it?
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I'm like, hey, you know, live in the drain.
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You're in the inside of like, fuck, I'm done.
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I couldn't take any more pain anymore.
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Any more angst.
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It was all a lot.
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So as soon as I share my journey on social media, about 200 people reach out and thank me.
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Because now they didn't feel so terrified in the world of their own journey.
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And that was kind of like my answer.
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Number one, a lot of people know what was going on.
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Number two, to let people know that they're not alone, that there are people like me, like
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the least of like nobody expected that to be extremely depressed.
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So then I started talking to my cocos from shit that goes on our heads, which is dirty
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skittles.
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Now, dirty skills that I worked together for like seven years.
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And at the time, she was my manager.
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I used to curl superwereously because I retired in April.
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But we would call each other every day and just laugh about shit.
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You probably should laugh about it.
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But it helped set the subject rate for the day because even if I was one through something
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bad, my endorphins were up.
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And I sound like my two healers were sharing my journey and laughing.
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So one day during our conversations of laughter, like sits of laughter, like there are a couple
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of times actually what might pants.
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You know what?
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I'm not ashamed to admit it.
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It shows your humanness.
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It shows your human side.
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I'm my human side, right?
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You know what?
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My pants.
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And the reason I chose that day is that I had buried my mom in February 14, 1997.
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So I wanted to change the trajectory of that day.
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And healing was not easy.
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There's no easy button.
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But I sound like each day got a little better and a little easier.
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And my wife and I started having deeper conversations and figuring out what were the things that
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gave me a lot of angst.
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One of the things I started to do was set boundaries.
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As an empath, that was the best thing I've ever done in my life.
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I have this, I have a black box, right?
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It's an imaginary thing.
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Imaginary black box.
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And it smells like drama.
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Like I really have to think about letting that drama into me because sometimes they don't
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know how to turn it off.
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So started setting the boundaries.
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Life changing.
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Like if you haven't done it yet, set those boundaries.
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That was my biggest thing this year.
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It was setting boundaries.
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My therapist, my kids, they're all so proud of me because it is where I have worked the
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hardest.
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I totally get it because you're your co-host and I'm pointing to myself is a fellow empath
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and it is man is hard work to think about yourself.
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It is.
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And so like once I started doing that, things got better.
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But I will tell you that I had to, and I'm going to coin this phrase from Journey Skittles
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who is the co-host on Shadyo's on our heads.
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I just speedate my therapist.
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So I went through three different therapists before I found one that really worked for me.
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So then let's fast forward to July 2020.
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I get this job.
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I'm working for a really small group of small people because when I left my corporate job,
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I thought I don't want to work for a big company ever again.
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And things went along smoothly.
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I was very simple.
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Once they had found out I had award-winning podcasts, they asked me why I came back to work
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for a time and I was like, well, I need benefits.
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So they offered me 30 hours a week and benefits.
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So I did that for a year and a half.
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And then fast forward to November of last year, 2024, they got acquired by Urszmi out.
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And if you know anything about Urszmi on their huge consulting firm, and like, I don't
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want to do that.
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And I went back into my kind of my old ways.
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I was wasting up every day with anxiety attacks and I just couldn't do it.
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Like I couldn't cite it as a lead to do that.
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So I knew in my heart that's not what I wanted to do.
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And I made them make self a promise too.
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And it wouldn't compromise anymore because in '61 I've compromised my entire life.
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And this time I wasn't going to compromise.
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So my wife and I had been in New York City and she said, hey, why don't you quit your job?
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And I'm like, ooh, okay, it's kind of scary, right?
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I worked because I want to work now because I have to work.
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So we're sitting down the plane coming back from New York City.
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And I realized how long it takes to do this guy's plane.
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But yeah, I love to quit.
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It's not quick.
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It's not quick.
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But it gave me time to like, I had my resume on my phone and I had Chachi PT on my phone.
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And so I put my resume into Chachi PT and I'm like, hey, designed it into Pseonatio, it's
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all to go from based on what my life experience was done on the podcast.
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I spent two minutes later and spent some time on that.
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I was like, oh, this is kind of like what I want to do.
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So I tweaked it down.
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And I had also gotten some really nice with, should it go on her head.
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I had had a couple of big sponsors that were interested in our podcast.
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So if you've ever worked for like Air Sv'A or any of the big consulting firms, they have
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these independent closets, meaning like if they've done any audits on these clients on
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these customers, you can't do business with them.
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So that was sign number two that it was time to live on.
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And then with my book, I've had a couple of publishers that are shunks of interest.
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And I've like, I really wanted to dive into that.
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And in between all of this is when I had my chat with Lisa and I was like, wait.
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We signed.
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We signed.
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It was hard.
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So hard.
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So on January 2nd, I gave my two weeks notice that same day I formed a company called Shows
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Your Talent in Wallace.
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And I'm now like a month and a half into my business and pressing it.
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And I've never been happier.
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But that like I turned my horrible pain into purpose.
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And I just want people to see me as a story of hope.
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And I will tell you, it was not easy.
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I still like my emotions still, but as well, just like everybody else was.
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And now I have better tools and better things to help me get from day to day.
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And I don't ever want to get to a point where it was on Christmas day 2022.
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And I don't want you to get to that point.
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You're talking about it, does he?
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Like, that's the thing.
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That's like, that's the secret sauce, right?
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And we talk about what's going on, how you could talk to your wife in a different way, in
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a deeper, more powerful way, more honest and authentic way, how you were feeling and what
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was really going on.
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And it's about being honest with ourselves too.
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And kind of understanding the signs and signals that our bodies are sending us and that
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our brains are sending us when we're not okay.
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We're like so in tune with all of those things now in a way that you weren't.
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So you kind of, you know, you kind of rode the wave to this point.
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That's the way of you rode was, you know, learning how to navigate talking more, being more
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open, being more vulnerable, asking questions, sharing information about yourself.
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And you know, that's what got you to hear.
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But it's so important that you remember you like, it is not an overnight thing.
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It's not.
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It's no quick fix.
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There's no quick fix.
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It was like, think of like being on a beach and like body surfing and getting cracked in
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the head, 87 times with a wave.
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And then just getting back up.
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And I really struggled.
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I mean, I've probably been depressed my entire life, but having that much happen in such a
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short period of time, literally crushed myself.
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What I change it?
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No, because I wouldn't be where I am today.
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Sometimes you have to go through some really hard shit so that you can find your true past.
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You know what else you have to do?
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You have to sit in that shit.
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Yeah.
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And sitting in it is so big.
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And there's no like I said, there's no easy button, but I get to be like through south.
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I get to be vulnerable.
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I'm still an empaths.
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I'm still an extrovert.
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But I will say when all the shit went down in November of 2024, this time I didn't keep
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it silent like everybody knew where I stood.
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Not only here at home, but also social media.
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I worked with like, you could only hide restroom bitch face for so long before they tell you
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to come off camera.
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It was so funny during that time, not funny, but like, I guess it was kind of funny that you
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would get off these calls and then you'd get on a call with me and be like, they all saw
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my bitch face.
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Like, you could see it from space.
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It was so prominent.
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I couldn't get away from it.
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I couldn't get away from it, but I felt so proud of myself that I knew where I had been and
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where I was now and that I could be honest about my emotions and that people would understand.
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Have I lost some friends in this process?
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Yes.
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But you know what?
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There's a reason in the season for friendship.
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But at the same time, I took my little podcast shit and it goes, "Hell, I'm going to
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go on our heads with dirty skills."
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And we were able to over mask a million downloads in December of 20, 20th work and we're
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listening to an over 60 tonne each.
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It's just amazing what you've been doing.
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You're an East like this and telling our stories have a ripple effect.
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And I hope that I can, I hope my story touches somebody else's life and knows that they're
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not alone and that they are worth it.
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And that will and flimmer of hope.
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Hope should make that full call.
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Like I said, "My N88 is free.
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You can call, you can text.
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This people are amazing."
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Yeah.
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There, you know, look, there are less to be learned through everything that we go through,
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right?
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Like the good stuff, the bad stuff, you know, we can't avoid both sides of it.
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It's life.
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It doesn't matter whether, you know, you're dealing with your own mental illness or someone
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else's or you've lost a job or you're, you know, you're grieving someone or something.
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Like the things that you and I talk about and the things that you and I have been through
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are things that like everybody.
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If you are a human, you are touched in some way by these things.
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So why in the hell are we not all talking about all these things all the time?
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That's the point.
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What we're doing here.
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I'm sad.
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And, you know, people are like, you're so crazy to be doing another podcast.
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Well, you know what, we're still doing shit that goes on our heads because we, in that
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podcast, we talk with different individuals that are going through some mental health journey
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or have got through some really crappy stuff.
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But I wanted to do a podcast that really focused on suicide, not only from a survivor,
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but from an attempt, a suicide attempt plan view.
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Because it's our stories that usually get shamed and are not heard and need to be heard.
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Now more than ever, these stories need to be fair.
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And we need, we need to come together as a community and help each other.
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There's things, times are really tough and just like one other thing to touch on is the
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LGBTQIA+ tunity.
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I know we're all suffering, but please know that there are crisis lines like the Trevor
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Hawaid 9/8.
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There are resources out there.
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The world needs you.
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They cannot shut us up.
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They can't.
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And I think that's a perfect opportunity for you and I to talk about, there's so much intersectionality
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with the two of us and what we do.
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We have this intersection of mental health challenge that we both had to navigate and
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suicide, loss and grief.
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We're both part of the queer community.
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I am a crisis counselor for the Trevor Project and we are a marginalized community right
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now.
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There are so many marginalized communities out there, but you and I happen to be part of
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the LGBTQ community and that's, you know, we're getting hit into the head and to the gut
00:26:06
every, you know, every single day now.
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So if you're listening and you're part of our community, not just the survivor's community
00:26:13
but the queer community, like we are here for you.
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We are there to show you the way, help you connect to the resources that you need because
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you're not alone.
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You are not alone.
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And we can't wait to talk to you guys next week and thank you all for tuning in and please
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remember, you are enough, you are needed, you are wanted in this world.
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You help reach out.
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Hey, man, love you, gee.
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I mean, we are whatever your name is.
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Jack.
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Well, love you, Jack.
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Bob, just call me Bob from now on.
00:26:51
Okay.
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Thanks for joining us on the survivors.
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For no matter how tough things feel, you are enough and the world means you're just the
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way you are.
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You're not alone in this journey.
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There's a community here and every step forward counts.
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We're so grateful you took the time to listen and we hope they'll take one day at a time.
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Just know there's always more light ahead.
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Thanks for being here friends.
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Just remember, help is out there in so many different places.
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So if you or someone you know is struggling, please call 988 and a trained crisis counselor
00:27:22
like me will be there to help.
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You can also find an inclusive and comprehensive directory of mental health resources, tools,
00:27:29
and content at the help hub dot CEO.
00:27:32
Just remember that help is always just a call or a click away.
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We'll catch you next week.
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In the meantime, keep surviving.